Woodlands Skateboard Park Design
About the Project
In 2020, the City of St. Albert is replacing the Woodlands Skateboard Park with a brand new, modern concrete skatepark in the same location. The new skatepark amenity will meet the needs of the community today and in the future by providing improved terrain and features that will cater to users of all ages and skill levels of non-motorized wheeled action sport users.
Concept Design presentation
An online presentation for the concept design of the Woodlands Skateboard Park was held via Zoom on Tuesday, April 28 from 6 - 7 p.m. The online survey for the skatepark design was open from April 28 - May 3, 2020.
A - Skatepark entry with seating & shade
B - Quarter pipe & bank ramp to pool
C - Flat ledge & fl at rail street area
D - Banked hip with slappy curb
E - 4’-5’ Spine wall
F - 6” Manual pad
G - Pool style bowl
H - 4’ deep mini ramp half pipe
I - 2’9” Bowl island with hips and bump
J - Stairs with handrail, ledge & banks
K - Shade structure with benches
L - Slappy curb & A-frame banks
M - 3’6” roll-in pocket
N - Quarter pipe hip with barrier extension
QUESTIONS RECEIVED DURING THE Design Presentation
Answers provided by the City of St. Albert and New Line Skate Parks
General Park Questions
Will graffiti be legal?
Regardless of style, size or colour, graffiti is vandalism and a criminal offense when placed on public or private property without the owner’s consent. Furthermore, in a skatepark environment graffiti changes depth perception and creates a slick sheen on the surface which are safety hazards for riders.
What kind of lighting will be installed? Is evening use anticipated?
A park lighting and electrical plan has been confirmed and will be included in the final skatepark design. The lighting layout will include eight, 20' high light standards that will border the skatepark footprint. This enhanced lighting plan will be a significant upgrade from the lighting previously installed at the site. The new lighting should allow for evening use.
Will there be an option for additional seating in the green spaces around the park?
Stakeholder feedback expressed a desire for additional benches and shade structure seating to be considered in the new skatepark design. The final design plan now includes three shade structures with seating, as well as three stand-alone benches that will surround the skatepark facility.
Has drainage been considered with the design? The old park would stay wet for quite a while.
A full-floor drainage system has been designed for the skatepark bowls and decks.
Will you use Silica Fume?
We use high-quality industry-standard shotcrete for the concrete in all transition features in the skatepark. Silica fume is something we’ll anticipate using in the concrete mix
The feel of real tile can’t be beat! Is real tile a comparable expense to incised concrete?
We are including a 6” band of 1” tiles in the pool-style bowl. While it costs more than incised concrete comparatively, it gives that authentic pool look and ride experience.
How deep is the stand-alone bowl? How tall is the mini-ramp?
The pool-style bowl is 5’2” deep in the shallow end, descending to 8’2” in the deep end. Depth is limited by the geotechnical conditions below the surface. Transition radii will change through the bowl with an elliptical 6’ blending to 10’ radii used in the shallow end, and an elliptical 8’ blending to 24’ radii in the deep end.
The mini-ramp is 4' tall.
Can the bowl be adjusted to have a less flat wall? Rounder big bowl and a square small bowl?
We are balancing this bowl’s theme against other more organic shaped bowls that have recently been built in the area. The deep end allows for some half-pipe style riding back and forth between straight walls while providing mechanical corners to generate speed or grind through.
Why does everything have to be curved?
The curved manual pad was replaced by the preferred hip option in the corner of the street section. A straight manual pad is in the China Bank transition on the outside of the flow bowl and is targeted for beginners and progression in curb-style riding
Could you make a spine corner? Can the volcano and spine be connected as a corner?
The preferred flow bowl middle option was for the banked and transition island with the bump. The Island shape was refined from this selection to include options for gapping over the island and have both a half volcano end and a roller bump end.
Is the grind structure too close to the sidewalk where people are walking?
We have updated the bench locations to provide better buffer space from the skatepark and defined spectator vs. skatepark space.
Is it all 100% pool coping?
The pool style bowl will have full concrete pool block coping to its edge.
What about a roll-in section on each side for those that can’t roll in over coping or don’t know how to drop-in?
A flow bowl roll-in is included near the street quarterpipe hip to allow for those that can’t drop-in to still access the flow bowl. Various heights of quarterpipes are located around the skatepark outside of the flow and pool bowl to allow beginners to learn drop-ins before progressing to the bowl terrain.
The flow bowl looks too open and prone to getting snaked. Can it be made more directional?
The flow bowl’s openness is a factor of having a bowl that can be used in as many ways as possible, allowing for a flowing circuit style line or crossing the island for gaps and airs over. Clear sight lines to standing and starting points, and only one roll-in, lets users see others who are waiting to use the bowl and take turns.
Can the walls of the bowl not be built up higher than 8’2”? The decks of the deep end don’t need to be at ground level.
Building higher than existing levels is challenging for site integration and CPTED (crime prevention through environmental design) considerations. Balancing the rest of the user and community desires for the entire skatepark is also a consideration for the overall design.
Why aren’t there more street features?
The distribution of street vs. transition terrain is based on the initial workshop feedback where transition was the clear priority for the community, but it’s also influenced by the existing elevations on site and the designer’s goal to maximize rideable square footage. Based on feedback from the second 3D workshop, street features have been improved and added to the previous design.
What are the specifications of the flat bar? Will the flat bar and down rail be square or round?
The flat bar rail will be a round 2” diameter, 14” high and 16’ long.
Can you make the hubba and launch to ledge skateable from both sides?
We’ve redesigned the hubba area to have banks on either side of it.
Is there a way to put a quarter near the pool bowl but further than what is in place at Sherwood Park Skatepark?
The site is limited in height to add quarter pipe feature to the pool bowl deck and still effectively berm away back into the natural landscape.
Loving the transitions! Any chance we can change the shallow of pro bowl to more flowy and circular?
We’ve added some variations in pockets to the shallow end to allow for different experiences in the lines. The space is quite limited to include two full pockets and we are balancing this bowl’s theme against other more organic shaped bowls that have recently been built in the area.
Are there any more opportunities for flyouts in the bowls?
The latest design includes flyout opportunities at a variety of heights from 2’ tall to 8’2” tall. We’ve made sure that bowls have lots of deck space and standing room, so riders can flyout and have a safe place to land in several locations. The new flow bowl island will also be ideal for big airs on scooters and bikes.
Last edited: June 17, 2020